Friday 26 January 2018

股价上涨的要素


事先声明,
我写这篇文章,主要是根据过去7年来所持有的公司股票来做个归纳,
马来西亚上市公司上千间,我只投资过10家左右,
而且我是以基本面位出发点,所以会有无法涵盖全面之处。

这7年来,
我觉得股价上涨最重要的因素,就是盈利成长!
最代表性的就是AEONCR这两年从RM11块多上涨到现在RM13块多,
而且RM13块多是红股后的价钱,
也就是说其实是从RM11块多上涨到RM20块左右。
(看,还要解释这么多,都说我不喜欢红股咯.....)

当然,
盈利成长后股价跟着上涨的上市公司一大堆,
我拿AEONCR作例子是因为这是我持有的公司之一。

可能很多人已经开始觉得无聊了,
又是什么盈利成长,股价才会上涨的老话题.................

接下来我想再深入探讨一下,
因为这几年来有些公司的盈利并没有成长很多,但股价反而上涨了很多!

我个人觉得除了盈利成长,
还有3个要素会导致公司股价上涨。


第一个是PE的上升。
以前EPS=RM2.50, PE=30, 所以股价大约RM75。
现在EPS = RM2.50, 但PE=40, 所以股价大约RM100左右。
也就是说,
虽然公司盈利成长不大,
但投资者们却对公司改变看法,愿意以更高的PE来看待公司。

其中明显的例子之一是F&N。
多年前我买入F&N时才RM16块多,现在RM28左右,
但盈利却成长不多。

为什么盈利成长不多,但股价却节节上升呢?

这可能是因为公司内部结构调整,以及公司所计划的未来发展方向,
令投资者们愿意以更高的PE来看待F&N。

远的不说,
也来谈谈最近去年股价从RM70多上涨到RM100以上的NESTLE。

老实说看季度财政报告,
NESTLE的盈利并没有很大的成长,
但却在一段很短的时间内突然上涨到超过RM100。

那时发生了什么事呢?

当时NESTLE被列入MSCI指数里,股价进而突破RM100。
公司没有变化,但投资者却因为公司被列入MSCI指数,
而愿意以更高的PE来看待NESTLE。

要寻找拥有这类要素的公司对我来说是很难的,
因为我不是神,我不可能知道投资者们会突然改变对公司的看法。
就像NESTLE,
我事前也不知道NESTLE会被纳入MSCI指数。

投资者对公司的看法改变,
不只会提高PE,也会降低PE。

我遭遇过的典型例子就是AEONCR。

几年前,
AEONCR因为业务急速成长,所以投资者给的PE是15以上。

但之后某季突然成长放缓,加上马币兑美元大跌以及NPL上升,三大负面因素。
投资者们突然改变对AEONCR的看法,PE连10都不肯给,
当时股价从高峰的RM19多跌到RM11左右!(红股前的价位)
当时我虽然在RM14到RM16之间卖出一部分,但仍免不了纸上财富的蒸发。

不过也因为跌到RM11块多,
我才得以在RM11到RM12之间累积更多股票~
(这些都是二送一红股前的股价。)



第二个上涨的要素则是股息增加。

当然,
公司盈利增加,通常都会大方地加派股息。

我这里想说的是那些股息增加幅度多过盈利增长幅度的公司,
就像盈利上涨20%,股息增加50%之类的。
或者股息政策改变,
原本只派盈利的20%,现在却派盈利的40%为股息。

过去的例子就有股息大幅增加的DLADY和HUPSENG,
结果这两家公司的股价都有了惊人的上涨!

要寻找这类型的公司,
首先就要看股息占了盈利的多少?

要是公司已经把盈利的80%或以上都作为股息派发出去,
那就不能期望这种要素了。

相反地,
要寻找那些公司需要资金发展,而只能派出盈利的少许作为股息。
等以后公司不需要太多资金发展后,就会有可能提高派息率。

当然,
事先需要确定说公司老板是真的需要资金才派不多股息,
还是只是吝啬,不想跟股东分享。

同样地,
股息会增加,也会减少。

我持有的PANAMY就因为一段时间派高息,
然后突然股息减少,
股价也因此下降很多.......



第三个要素是突然有利好消息,
例如宣布派红股或传出收购消息。

通常好消息一出,股价都会受到激励而上涨。
这类型的例子就有最近宣布派红股的LPI和被收购的OLDTOWN。

当然,
问题又来了,
我又不是公司内部人员,也不是神,
无法事先知道这些消息,所以就像PE提高一样,都是可遇不可求的。

好消息会激励股价,
同样地坏消息也会影响股价。

可能公司重要人物突然健康出问题,
或者工厂遭遇火灾或水灾等,
也会令股价下跌。


说了一大堆,
我觉得最重要的还是投资好公司。

好公司盈利会成长,股价也会上升。
好公司会令投资者愿意以更高的PE来对待,股价也会上升。
好公司会派越来越多股息,股价也会上升。
有些好公司会派红股,股价也会上升。

所以我都投资一堆好公司。

投资就是自己思考,自己做决定。

感谢阅读。


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OFI 2018年第2季度财政报告
其实我讨厌红股与拆细
F&N 2017年度财政报告
我的投资回酬计算方式(ROE&ROA)
为何我使用SMF来投资


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2017年文章目录
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Important factors of share price rising


Let me clarify first,
this article is written based on the company shares that I bought for the past 7 years.
There are more than thousand public listed companies at Malaysia,
and I only invested around 10-20 companies,
plus I invested based on fundamental,
so I might be able to cover everything perfectly.

For all these years,
I think the most important factor for a share price to rise is the GROWTH of PROFIT.
AEONCR profit grew a lot for the pass two years,
so the share price also rose from around RM11 to now around RM13,
and don't forget that the current RM13 is the share price after Bonus Issue,
so actually it rose from RM11 to around RM20.
(See, that's why I don't like Bonus Issue, need to explain more....)

Of course,
there are a lot other companies that the share price skyrocketed with the growth of profit,
I took AEONCR as my example is because it is one of the company that I am investing now.

Okay,
I think many people are starting to get bored,
since again it is about growth of profit then rising share price,
the same old topic...............

So now I would like to discuss deeper,
because in this few years,
there are some companies that didn't have amazing growth of profit,
but the share price rose amazingly!

Personally,
except growth of profit,
I think there are 3 more factors that will help the rise of company share price.


First,
is the rise of PE.

Last time EPS=RM2.50, PE=30, so the share price was around RM75.
Now EPS=RM2.50, PE=40, and the share price rose to around RM100.
Even though the company didn't grow much at profit,
but all the investors changed their views about the same company,
and willing to look at it with higher PE.

One of the obvious example is F&N.
Few years ago I bought F&N at around RM16,
now is around RM28,
but actually the profit didn't grow that much.

So why did the share price rose so much comparing with the profit?

Maybe it is because the company did restructuring to save cost,
and have clearer planning to future operation,
so all the investors willing to look at F&N with higher PE.

Not only F&N,
the most recent example is NESTLE which the share price rose from around RM70 to above RM100.

If take a look at the financial report of NESTLE,
there is not much growth of profit,
but the share price was able to rise drastically in a short time to break through RM100.

So what happened?

This is because NESTLE is listed into the MSCI Index, so the share price rose to above RM100.
No changes happened at the company,
but because it is listed at MSCI Index,
so all the investors willing to look at NESTLE with higher PE.

Is actually quite hard for me to find this kind of company to invest.
I am not GOD, I will know when the investors will suddenly change their views regarding a certain company,
just like NESTLE,
I had no clue that NESTLE will be listed at MSCI Index beforehand.

Even though the investors willing to change their views and look at certain company with higher PE,
sometimes,
they might lower the PE also.

Yes, this is based on my personal experience with AEONCR.

Few years ago,
AEONCR grew very fast,
so the investors willing to look at it with PE above 15.

Then suddenly,
the growth suddenly decreased at a quarter, plus the factor of Ringgit value dropping and rising NPL,
3 negative factors,
all the investors suddenly changed their views at AEONCR,
and they looked at it with PE below 10,
so the share price dropped from RM19 to around RM11 !! (before Bonus Issue)
Even though I sold some at between RM14 to RM16, but some of my paper profits still flew away.....

However,
because of that,
I also had the chance to accumulate a lot more shares at price between RM11 to RM12.
(Of course the price is before 2:1 Bonus Issue.)


Second,
the increment of dividends.

Of course,
if a company earned more money, usually will be more willling to distribute more dividends.

What I wanted to point out here are those companies that the increase of dividends are more than the growth of profit.
For example, profit grew by 20% but dividend increased by 50%.
Or the changes of dividend payout ratio,
last time only distribute 20% of profit,
but now changed to distribute 40% of profit as dividend.

DLADY and HUPSENG are the two best examples of large increment in dividends,
as the result,
the share prices of both companies also rose drastically!

If want to search for this kind of company,
first we need to see the ratio of current dividend to the profit.

If the company already distributing 80% or above of the profit as dividend,
then this factor cannot be applied.

Instead,
we can look for those companies that only distribute a portion of the profit as dividend,
because the companies need capital for future investment and expansion.
Then at the future when companies do not need so much capital for expansion,
then maybe the dividend payout ratio will rise.

Of course,
we need to make sure that the company really needed expansion capital,
and not because the boss is selfish, doesn't want to share money with shareholders....

Eventually,
the dividend will increases, but will decreases as well.

PANAMY which I investing distributed large portion of profit as dividend for few years,
then suddenly the dividend payout ratio dropped a lot,
and so did the share price.............



Third,
some sudden good news.
For example like Bonus Issue or take over news.

Usually when the good news are announced,
the share price will rise.

The most recent examples are LPI which declared Bonus Issue and OLDTOWN which going to be taken over by Dutch company.

However here comes the question again,
I am not insider of the company, and I am not GOD,
so I couldn't know all these news beforehand, same like the changes of PE.

Since good news will trigger the share price to rise,
eventually bad news will cause the share price do drop.

Maybe important management people having some health issues,
or the the factory is flooded or fire happened,
all these bad news will cause the share price to drop.


No matter how,
I think the most important thing for us is to invest at GOOD COMPANY.

The profits of good companies will grow, so as the share prices.
Investors willing to look at good companies with higher PE, so the share prices will rise.
Good companies will distribute more and more dividends, so the share prices rise too.
Some good companies will declare Bonus Issue, and the share prices will rise.

That's why I only invested at good companies.

Investment is about doing own thinking, making own decision.

Thanks for reading.










Sunday 21 January 2018

OFI 2nd Quarter 2018 Financial Report


OFI is an interesting company to look at.

Why did I said so?

Let's have a look at the latest financial report:

The growth of revenue is excellent!
However the profit is not that satisfying..........

Sometimes the problem is.....
in order to sell more products, the more were spent for selling expenses,
eventually the problem of rising revenue but dropping profit will arise.

Anyway,
I started to put my eyes at OFI was because of the export market:

They did well at export.

The prospects from management:

The company is acquiring machines for expansion projects of new product lines,
which to be completed in stages for next few years.

Sounds very interesting.

How about have a look at the cash flow:

Negative cash flow of operating activities.



The cash used in investing activities is scary,
well no choice,
to acquire machines.


Even the company used a lot of cash,
but still maintaining the dividends.
The company having some loans and borrowings.


The company still had more than 40 million cash at the start of year 2016,
now only left with 4 million.

If company didn't borrow money, no cash left for them already.

The company spent so much cash, aggressively acquiring machines for new product lines,
will the future be bright?
Or dark?

Investment is about doing own thinking, making own decision.

Thanks for reading.







OFI 2018年第2季度财政报告


这是一家值得研究的公司。

为什么我会这么说呢?

看看最新的业绩报告:

Revenue增长惊人!
不过盈利方面却差强人意。

有时候问题就是这样,
为了卖更多,促销费用也会跟着提高,
造成Revenue上涨,盈利却下跌的问题。

我一开始会注意OFI是因为海外市场:

海外市场真的表现超强的。

管理层的发言:
公司为了新产品线和发展计划,在买着一些新的机械设备,
这些计划会在未来几年落实。

听起来好像很值得令人期待,
不过先看看现金流:

单单营运现金流就已经是负数了。


这里的现金流失更是惊人。
没办法,为了买新的机械设备嘛。


公司现金流失惊人,
但股息还是照派,
不过有负债哦。


2016年年头公司现金多达4千万,
现在只剩下4百万。

幸好有借贷,不然现金早就耗尽了。

公司大肆消耗现金,激进地投资设备,准备推出新产品,
前途会是一片光明?
还是一片黑暗?

投资就是自己思考,自己做决定。

感谢阅读。




以上言论没有任何买卖建议,
大家买卖自负。


最近文章:
其实我讨厌红股与拆细
F&N 2017年度财政报告
我的投资回酬计算方式(ROE&ROA)
为何我使用SMF来投资
当年股票组合价值突破100K的感想


其他链接:

2017年文章目录
我的2017年投资成绩
关于本人
我的脸书专页
我的推特:@TheCellist86






Tuesday 16 January 2018

Actually I don't like Bonus Issue & Share Split


Before we start,
let's have a book at these two conversations below:


FIRST.

FRIEND : "Oh! We didn't meet for few years already, how are you?"
ME : "Well, so far so good, how about you?"
FRIEND : "Still the same~ Oh yeah! I saw you lost a lot of money at shares, is okay, this meal I treat!"
ME : "Lost money? Me?"
FRIEND : "Aiks.... still remember few years ago when you just started to invest, you told me you bought AEON shares at around RM5 right?"
ME : "Yeah."
FRIEND : "I checked the share price just now, it is now around RM1.70, so you must be losing a lot of money."
ME : "No.... I sold some at around RM3.60 and the rest at around RM2.70~"
FRIEND : "Aiks.....still lost money, never mind I treat you !"
ME : "........................^^;;;;"

*After I bought AEON last time, it went through process of 1:1 Bonus Issue then 1:1 Share Split.


SECOND.


FRIEND : "Yo bro! Not bad, you earned so much at shares market!"
ME : "Nah..... my capital is not big enough, didn't earn a lot also."
FRIEND : "But still... you earned the most from NESTLE right? Last year only around RM70, now already more than RM100, so scary!"
ME : "Yeah, but I earned the most from AEONCR though."
FRIEND : "Wow bro! You earned too much money until crazy already?"
ME : "Huh?"
FRIEND : "AEONCR was around RM14 at the start of year 2017, now is around RM13, sure lose money right! I treat you this meal, after that you go hospital check your brain ya~"
ME : "............................^^;;;;;"

*AEONCR last year went through 2:1 Bonus Issue.


I created the conversations above out from thin air,
is not real,
but I do hope I have those kind of friend LOL.

Anyway,
if you didn't understand the important point of those two conversations,
that means you might be not so clear about Bonus Issue and Share Split,
I strongly recommend you to study about Bonus Issue and Share Split before you start investing.

Well.....
A lot of people like Bonus Issue and Share Split.
You can go to AGM if you don't believe,
I can guarantee you that every year there must be at least one shareholder asking/suggesting Bonus Issue to the management.

Or you can see the share price of a company that announced Bonus Issue,
the price will definitely rises!

Well.....
Everyone love things with low price~

Few years ago,
less people wanted to buy a share which was quoted at above RM40,
but after 1:10 Share Split,
everyone crazily buying it even it was above RM5~

Another example is AEON,
at the price of RM16,
AEON went through process of Bonus Issue and Share Split to become Rm4 per share,
someone who I am very closed with quickly bought it at around RM4.

Looking at the share price now which is around RM1.70 for AEON,
luckily that fella didn't buy a lot.....

Personally,
I am not very fond of Bonus Issue and Share Split,
this is because it will not only affect the share price,
and is hard to explain about the change of share price.

For example,
I told someone that I bought LPI at around RM16 during year 2014,
now year 2018 the share price is around RM18,
feel like didn't earn a lot,
but actually LPI went through 2:1 Bonus Issue between the years mentioned.
If not, LPI now will not be priced at around RM18,
but should be priced at around RM27!!

The problem is...........
most people only thought that LPI last time was around RM16, and now is around RM18,
so they feel like LPI didn't rise much,
not worthy to invest.

No wonder a lot of people don't like long term investment,
this is because they thought can only earn around RM2 if they hold LPI for this few years,
but holding LPI from year 2014 around RM16 until now year 2018 around RM18,
I at least earned RM10.

Recently people all talked about NESTLE because it just break through share price RM100,
but actually if not because of Bonus Issue and Share Split,
I think many other companies also will be priced at above RM100~

One more reason I am not fond of these company activities is because it is not convenient for me to check the financial result of a company,
I sometimes accidentally took the higher EPS before Bonus Issue to compare with the lower share price after Bonus Issue,
so I was very happy because I thought that I found an undervalued company to invest,
then I did some deep research only found out the truth................
It not only wasted my energy, but also my time...............

Of course,
this is just my personal opinion,
you do not need to follow me to dislike Bonus Issue or Share Split~

Investment is about doing own thinking, making own decision.

Thanks for reading.






其实我讨厌红股与拆细


开始之前,
先看看以下这两则对话。

第一个。

朋友:“哦!几年不见了,近来好吗?”
我:“嗯,还好,你呢?”
朋友:“就酱咯。对了!我看你股票亏很多,这餐我请!”
我:“亏?有吗?”
朋友:“唉!当年你刚开始投资时,不是听你说买了RM5块多的AEON嘛?”
我:“是没错。”
朋友:“我刚刚看了看股价,发现现在才RM1块多,不是亏死了吗?”
我:“没有啊,我在RM3块多和RM2块多时都卖完啦。”
朋友:“唉!亏少亏多还不是一样亏!总之废话少说,这餐我请就对了!”
我:“........................ ^^;;;;”

注:AEON在我买进后,曾经红股一送一,再拆细1:1。



第二个。

朋友:“老兄!你就好了,股票赚那么多!”
我:“没啦,资本不够大,赚不多。”
朋友:“最赚的是NESTLE吧?去年才RM70多块,今年就破RM100了,真是吓死人!”
我:“还好啦,不过最赚的还是AEONCR。”
朋友:“哇!老兄!你是赚钱赚到疯了吗?”
我:“哪里有?”
朋友:“AEONCR去年年头RM14块多,年尾RM13块多,根本亏了啦!这餐我请你吃,你吃饱后乖乖去医院检查一下!”
我:“................................^^;;;;;”

注:AEONCR去年曾经红股二送一。


以上这两则对话纯属虚构,如有雷同,实属巧合。

如果你看不懂这两则对话的要点,
那么有可能你还不是很清楚何谓红股和拆细。
建议你在投资股票之前,先去了解红股和拆细。

很多人都喜欢红股或拆细,
不信的话你可以去股东大会看看,
每年都一定有人询问或建议管理层派红股。

不然就是某公司一宣布红股,
股价就马上上涨。

你看,那么多人喜欢红股呢!
没办法,很多人就是喜欢价格低的东西。

所以以前某股RM40多一股时没人买,
1变10拆细后,
RM5都一大堆人买~

另一个例子则是AEON,
RM16块时分红股并拆细成RM4,
结果我熟悉的某人马上以RM4的价钱买进。

看回AEON现在RM1.7左右的股价,
幸好某人没有买很多。

其实我本人并非那么喜欢红股,
因为红股会令股价变动,解释起来也有点麻烦。

就像我跟人说,2014年时我以RM16块多买进LPI,
现在价钱是RM18块多,
感觉赚不多,
但其实这段时间里LPI有过红股二送一,
要是没有红股的话,
LPI现在的股价并非RM18块多,而是RM27块多了!

问题是,
很多人看到的却是以前LPI是RM16块多,现在是RM18块多........
觉得LPI起很少,没有投资的价值。

难怪长期投资的人那么少,
因为他们以为长期投资LPI也只能赚那么RM2那么少,
但LPI从2014年的RM16多到现在2018年的RM18多,
我最少都赚了RM10。

就像股价最近破百的股王NESTLE,
要是没有红股和拆细这些企业活动,
股王这位置哪里轮得到NESTLE~

所以我不是那么喜欢红股或拆细,
特别是要看公司业绩很不方便,
有时会不小心拿红股前较高的EPS和红股后较低的股价做比较,
以为自己找到低估的低PE公司很兴奋,
结果仔细检查后才大失所望,
不只耗神耗力,还耗时间...........

当然,
不喜欢红股只是我个人的看法,
并不代表你也要跟我一起讨厌红股~

投资就是自己思考,自己做决定。

感谢阅读。



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Thursday 11 January 2018

F&N Annual Report 2017


F&N released the annual report not long ago,
I went through it and found some important points which I think is worthy to take note of it,
so I will write down here for references at the future.

First, is the performance of each existing brand:

100PLUS, OISHI, F&N SEASONS, F&N NutriSoy all these drink products,
plus
F&N,Gold Coin, TEAPOT, CARNATION, Cap Junjung, IDEAL are in leading position in each respective segment.

Also, 100PLUS started for being offered at all McDonald's outlets:
As for Thailand operation:
BEAR BRAND, CARNATION, TEAPOT are doing well,
I am happy that there are 13% growth in Cambodia and Laos.

As for Exports:
Except ASEAN and Greater China,
there were early progress into Middle East and North Africa as well.

Also:

100PLUS and F&N SEASONS are now available in the 5 countries listed above.

Words from management regarding Exports:

Sounded very confident~

The CAPEX:
No plan to sell tube packaged TEAPOT in Malaysia?
Feel like it will be more convenient than the tin packaged.........

Lastly the AGM:

24 January 2018 at 10am.........
I think the terrible traffic jam will make me vomit blood if I really going........

I wish I have the super power of teleport~

Investment is about doing own thinking, making own decision.

Thanks for reading.

F&N 2017年度财政报告


话说F&N不久前出了年度财政报告,
我阅览了之后,
觉得有些重点值得留意的,
就写在这里,方便以后察看。

首先,是现有各品牌的表现:

100PLUS, OISHI, F&N SEASONS, F&N NutriSoy这些饮料产品,
以及
F&N,Gold Coin, TEAPOT, CARNATION, Cap Junjung, IDEAL都是市场领头羊。

然后100PLUS也开始在马来西亚各大McDonald's分店开始供应:

至于泰国业务方面:
BEAR BRAND, CARNATION, TEAPOT都表现良好,
不过最值得开心的,还是Cambodia和Laos那里业务成长13%。

出口业务方面:
除了东南亚和中国,
也开始在中东和北非有初步的进展。

然后:

100PLUS和F&N SEASONS饮料也开始进军以上这5个国家了。

管理层关于出口业务的发言:

听起来信誓旦旦的。

接下来的投资计划:
话说马来西亚不出TUBE装的TEAPOT?
感觉比罐装的方便很多...........

最后是AGM:

2018年1月24日早上10点,
估计要去的话,从我住的地方出发肯定塞车到吐...............

好希望拥有瞬间移动的超能力~

投资就是自己思考,自己做决定。

感谢阅读。




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